What are some ways to argue against a mandate on alternative fuels?

by admin on July 7, 2010



Here’s what I want to argue against-

…How can I refute the arguments that the opposition provides against me?

Con Refutations-

1. Opponent provides “Climate Change” argument

2. Opponent provides “Transportation is key to climate change” argument

3. Opponent provides any “Oil Dependence / Depletion bad” arguments

a.air pollution

b.economy

c. environment

d. leadership/national security

e. terrorism

f. war/conflict

4. Opponent Provides “Alternative Fuels Effective” argument

a. Biodiesel

b. Coal-to-liquids

c. Electric Cars

d. Ethanol

e. Hydrogen

f. Methanol

g. Vegetable Oil

If opponent Provides “Other Approaches fail” argument

a. carbon tax

b. markets

can you help?

Originally posted 2009-08-23 12:10:49.

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unplugged-Pro-Peace August 24, 2009 at 10:33 am

you can’t because its true.

i don’t know why you’d be against alternative fuels, its a win win situation. you save money, you reduce air polution, and if you have an electric car, its much MUCH more convienient cause you charge it at home.

there are only two reasons that i can think of why someone would be against alternative fuels. either they are uneducated about the subject, or they happen to own a few gas stations. i think your just uneducated because you can’t think of your own arguements…

GABY August 27, 2009 at 1:33 pm

Here is a good point.

We are waiting on all these alternatives like Electric, Hydrogen, etc. when in Europe they already have many very nice turbo diesels getting 60MPG NOW. Why can’t we have them here in the US. They are available NOW, and we don’t know when these other alternatives will be here for us. These cars will also burn bio diesel when and where available.

What alternatives are available now? Electric – The only one available now that even comes close to providing a decent range costs over $100,000. Hydrogen – Where? When? Who? many experiments but nothing available. veggie oil and ethanol – grow more corn and soy beans that are ffod?

The European cars use less fuel than expensive hybrids, and we could cut our fuel usage in half NOW. Why do we have emissions limits so low that we can’t have them when the rest of the world has?

Richard August 28, 2009 at 3:11 pm

1. Opponent provides “Climate Change” argument

Climate has and will always change there have been times in the history of this planet where co2 levels have been much high and during that time the earth has suffered through an ice age, clearly co2 is not the only factor in climate change. I would also like to point out that co2 is a logarithmic that is the more co2 in the air the less effect it has on temperature, and there are studies that say any additional co2 will have little or no effect on climate change.

2. Opponent provides “Transportation is key to climate change” argument

See #1

3. Opponent provides any “Oil Dependence / Depletion bad” arguments

As oil becomes depleted we will move to other fuels. Went oil is no longer economical to use businesses and people will move to other cheaper fuels. It will be the economy that dictates what fuels we use.

a.air pollution,

Transportation and energy production today is much cleaner than in the past, and is getting even cleaner, thanks to new and ongoing developments in refining, and pollution controls. As newer ways of producing energy and transportation come on line our air will get cleaner and cleaner. There are cars on the drawing board and one that has been tested, where the air exiting the tail pipe is cleaner then the air that went into the engine. It wasn’t that long ago when Los Angeles was covered in smog, but because of environmental controls on transportation and manufacturing Stage 1 smog alerts have declined from over 100 per year in the 1970s to almost zero.

b.economy

Every fuel is an alternative fuel, coal is an alternative to wood, heating oil is an alternative to coal. It is the economy that determines which fuel we used. A short fifty years ago, people heated their homes in winter with coal. A hundred years ago and before, people living in cold climates largely stayed warm in winter with firewood. Today, in a country and planet with vastly more people, we heat homes in northern climates largely with high quality fossil fuels, specifically natural gas, heating oil, and propane. When the price of fossil fuels becomes too high new alternative fuels will become more attractive. When alternative fuels become competitive with the fuels we currently use, we will move over to another alternative fuel.

c. environment

One of the main reasons our environment is as clean as it is now is because of our transportations system, as we move to cars and truck our cities became cleaner and cleaner. As we moved away from older dirtier fuels and moved to cleaner fuels our environment became cleaner. We have done that with diesel, diesel now sold has much less sulfur in then in the past making it cleaner and better for the environment.

d. leadership/national security

The US pumps enough oil to meet it security needs for many years to come. It may be better from a security point of view to use oil from other countries while leaving our own oil reserves alone.

e. terrorism

Terrorists want power, power over people. If you don’t believe the way they believe, pray the way they pray, follow the words of their leader, than you die. If you don’t give them land then you die, if you don’t wear the right cloths then you die if you don’t do what they say you die, if you say the wrong thing then you die. If you think that terrorist care about oil, you are wrong, a terrorist want power nothing more nothing less, power over you no matter what.

f. war/conflict

Wars and conflict have and continue to be fought over everything the US almost went to war over the death of a pig, to think that war and conflict will end if we stop importing oil is taking a very simplistic view of the world and world events. Wars and conflict will always be with us as long one person thinks they were wronged by someone else.

4. Opponent Provides “Alternative Fuels Effective” argument

a. Biodiesel –

As of right now we can’t produce Vegetable oil, or algae oil to come close to replacing the oil we need. The expense of biodiesel is higher than diesel.

b. Coal-to-liquids

Coal-to-liquids is a stop gap measure at best; coal is not a renewable recourse. To be completive with oil, the price of oil would have to be $108 and $138 per barrel.

Coal mining creates hazardous and acidic waste, which can contaminate groundwater. Strip mining, a technique in which land and vegetation are stripped away by giant machines, not only damages surfaces and permanently reshapes landscapes, but it also can destroy habitats and effect water tables.

c. Electric Cars

Electric car currently have limited range, and a long recharge time compared to gasoline powered cars. They are more expensive, and when a family looks to buy a car, it must meet many needs. Not only to transport a family around town, but on longer trips also have a short recharge or refill time. Currently electric cars cannot meet all the need of a family. With an electric car a fami

snapdragon August 31, 2009 at 3:10 pm

You are not necessarily arguing against alternative fuels, you are arguing against a mandate on alternative fuels. The mandate limits our flexibility and locks us into a certain solution which may not be the best.

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